700. - Glaive

All right, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Stateside with Kai and Carter, a new podcast from The Guardian. And they are using this podcast to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions that we all have about what's happening in the world. And they do it three times a week, Jason. Does that sound familiar to you? We don't really talk about, you know, a lot of international global news items and climates and cultures and sports and things like that. We do talk about fashion and wellness, but for everything else, Kai and Carter are a great place. All right, so who couldn't use more news? Listen wherever you get your podcast. or watch on YouTube. How long gone? You guessed it. Chris Black and them jeans back for another round of podcasting. Jason, what's good? I just got out of the sauna minutes ago, took a cold shower, a real cold shower. I'm doing the thing where you get really hot and sweaty, shower, put your clothes on, and then you don't give yourself enough time to get the sweat out of your bod. So now I'm really schvitzing in my cans right now. I can't do that. If I get out of the sauna, I need 15 minutes minimum to lay on the floor before I hop into it. any sort of shower situation for that reason. It doesn't alleviate the problem completely, but it helps a little bit. Few follow-ups, big fella. When you're laying on the floor, face up, face down. How do you play? Oh, face up, face up. Okay. Yeah, face up, towel on the ground. Okay, so you like it when they bounce on it. Yeah. With vigor and charisma. Exactly. That's what I'm looking for. No, I'm usually gasping for air and making sure that my pulse is still there in those situations. Oh, come on. No, if I do 45 full minutes, I feel pretty fucked up. Like, I feel pretty, I feel, but I don't have the practice that you have. Allow yourself to take breaks, too. There's no...

Winners or losers. I know. I know that. But it feels something about it just doesn't feel good to me. I don't know what it is. I know that it's totally fine. But this is one of my many problems. Something about doing wind sprints doesn't feel good to me either, Chris. But that doesn't stop me day in and day out, does it? I'm just kidding. I never do that. But you know what I mean. I know you've never done a wind sprint in your entire life. They're great for you. Great for the heart health. I don't even like wind. You add sprint to that shit, I'm out. Yeah, I'm sort of on the edge of barely even being able to handle wind, let alone whatever a wind sprint might be. When you add to it. But yeah, I was thinking when I was in the cold shower, I was like, this is cold as fuck. I'm shivering in my timbers. And then I was thinking about cold plunging. It continues to grow, cold plunge mania. And I really wonder how many people... I was just in Austin. I know all about it. Yeah, I know all about it. And it makes me wonder, nice segue, how many Austin entrepreneurs believe that cold plunging will, and when I say Austrian entrepreneur, metaphorically speaking, we all have one of those in our life. Of course. Think that the cold plunge will fix all the problems that they have in their life. Their erectile dysfunction, their wife will talk to them again, they'll lose weight, they'll become... a millionaire you know it depends on how much whatever it might be it depends on how many incel huberman scott galloway podcasts they listen to that's that's all that it does that's what's brainwashed not only the city of austin but the every man in this country um if if those kind of podcasts get a hold of you you think you can fix your problems with uh you know eating liver and getting in the cold plunge i mean They're right. They do fix a lot of problems, but I worry about it being a cure-all for all. But I think it's more of just a fun thing to do to adjust the bond. I don't really know what it's doing, but this coming from a person who sauna is seven days a week, so I guess I can't really talk. No. But I do it for me, okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You do it for you. And I put on for my city. Yesterday we did a talk with a friend of the show, Sir Paul Smith.

of clothing fame wow what a guy coolest dude of all time what a guy that's a fucking legend yeah really is a legend he had he had also flown from tokyo two hours before we sat down and i'm just like i don't i know jason couldn't do that and this man is monday monday he was today's thursday morning monday he was in london tuesday tokyo wednesday los angeles and the guys 70 something. I got it. I have to say that's still running his business. Still independent. Yeah. We learned a lot actually. Cause I didn't know. I mean, obviously it's been around forever and I'm very familiar with it, but I didn't know that there are like 200 plus stores in Japan alone, which is fucking crazy. Japan. Yeah. There's 260 Paul Smith retail locations. Crazy. But yeah, he's really, he's really got it all. He's got, he's funny. He's smart. And he also has got that, that he's got enough. age on him where he's insightful you know as well can offer some real sage advice um while uh you know taking notes on his scraps of paper he was there he was there at the beginning yeah he was no i was really impressed honestly i mean i'd always heard over the years that he's cool because a lot of people i know have dealt with him in whatever you know in whatever way uh in the fashion business but yeah he's he was great groovy guy any chance i can get jason to go to a so house property also i'm kind of looking to do that yeah i had been in that location before the last time i went when i typed in pally house because i thought you were staying there and it took me there and i went in to your room number and knocked on the door and you were like no you're in the wrong hotel and that's never happened to me before oh i didn't know you i didn't know that's where you went that time that was really funny you're like bro i'm knocking on the door what's wrong with you you thought i relapsed yeah the i had a manager helping me out it was a whole thing you're like all right we're gonna have to break this door and this guy's not answering it felt like a nice place to do your office job though Your fake job? Yeah, definitely. Definitely. This morning, I was attacked verbally and physically by two different Asian men. Were they upset with you? They knew what you've done to their women?

Or was it something more sinister? One out of the two. One out of the two, yes. No hyperbole. The first one, we were walking the dogs across the crosswalk. We live in a neighborhood that has a school, so traffic in the mornings gets a little crazy with the school drop-off. They don't really prioritize safety all the time. They're late, they're rushing, they're doing crazy shit. And we were walking the dogs across the crosswalk. you know stop sign four point stop sign cars everywhere busy kids running around all over the place and this like a minivan with the dad and his kids just drove and like basically almost hit me and he did not look at at me or carolyn or anything going on just straight up did not look before driving through an intersection and i spit on his car and i started punching his car And nothing happened. This is crisp behavior. So I'm pretty impressed that you did this. This is crisp behavior. And then there was, I was heckled. This Asian dad in a Tesla, his kid, you know, three-year-old in the seat next to him. This is 8 a.m., you know, suburban weekday morning. Rolls his window down past us and starts yelling Oxford study at us. Are you familiar with this? Never heard of that. I mean, I know those two English words. Okay. I had to search this. It is apparently a TikTok trend. What? Or it has become a trending topic on TikTok where people complain about white men. and asian women dating wow you got oh okay so unc sunned your ass is what you're saying and there ain't nothing you can do about it unc did not sun my ass i sunned unc's ass by stealing his women he did not say this is this is a good this is a dad alone with his kid in the back seat of his tesla look bro rolling his window down at a two adults you're my man you're my man in front of their house and he yells oxford he just yelled oxford study

Like how Elon Musk might yell at somebody and then drove away. You're my man, but he won this round. I'm sorry. That's a funny – if he calls you something so potent that you have to go home and Google it because you didn't know what it meant and then it's actually a good insult, you lost that round. You've got to find this guy again and come back with something stronger. I'm just saying. I don't – I hate to break it to you, but as a person who has gotten in several street altercations in their life, you have to know when you win or lose. And as long as nobody's in jail, everybody kind of wins. You know what I mean? As long as hands don't get thrown. Is like a pasty, depressed dad yelling Oxford study at a stranger and his wife, is that a good dig? Is that like a guy driving past you and be like... The guy's got a big dick. No, that's not what it's like. What is the insult? Where is the venom here? Where am I supposed to be hurt by it? I'm not saying you should be hurt by it or not. It's just a funny thing to say to someone. It's just a simple act of he yelled at me, he drove away. He had the first and last word. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So technically it's a dub for him. Exactly, yeah, it's a dub for him. I don't expect you to be head in hands like shedding tears over a casual street diss. But I'm saying, he rolled on the window, he said his piece, and before your dumbass could respond, he was already dropping Sonny off at school. But I'm saying... is that a diss yes that's a diss well it's it's you don't consider a diss but he obviously does so it's a it's tough it's a tough call you know what i mean like he like he said it definitely derogatory you may not take it that way but if that was the intention that that was the intention i don't yeah i i mean this could be my my artist brain what was it again i'm sorry what was it again oxford study study oh baby Unfortunately, you should not have told me that. You should not have told me that. That might come up again. That might come up again. Yeah, exactly. This guy just gave me ammunition. But I never heard that before, and thank God we're not on TikTok. But I think the real part of this burn, or not burn, however you want to look at it, that I like so much, is that it was so obscure but also on point that you had to look it up.

That's what I really like about it. They're required a Google search. I would argue that this is maybe more of a dig on Carolyn than on me. Oh, look, I don't care who he's digging on. He got somebody. That's all I'm saying. He got one of y'all asses. That's all I know. I, that's all I know that you're, you're right actually. Um, but I'm sure you were both happy to learn something new by Googling. Yeah. I was like, surely he does not. I mean, cause if he, if he's just yelling at a white guy and an Asian girl on the street, he's going to lose his voice in Southern California. Yeah. That's a full, full time job pulling that off. But if he's going to do that, you know, who, who is the joke on? I guess is what I'm saying. I would say it's more pathetic for him to yell that at a stranger. Yeah, that's one way to look at it because you're the victim. I mean, you're the victim, so that's how you look at it. He's the victim. No, no. He's the victim, and he's yelling at me for taking his bitch. No, he's not the victim. He saw you attack one of his brothers, and he had to let a little something fly. No, no, no. He had to let a little something fly. All right, hold on. The yell happened. Ten minutes before I punch the car. That changes things. We got to get into this. Just to be clear. Okay. Okay. We have a guest today, and I'm sorry that you got hurt this morning, Jason. Our old friend Glaive is here. Yeah. He's got a new record coming out, and he came back to tap in with us, which is, you know, he's a fan favorite. He's a host favorite as well. So let's chat with Big Dog, Jason. It's time. This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Squarespace. Obviously, Jason, you and I spend a lot of time on the World Wide Web, so do our peers, our listeners, our friends, our colleagues, maybe even your parents if they're freaky. And if you're doing anything in the world, writing, taking pictures. I do topless boxing. You need a website. Exactly, a website that works, that does what it's supposed to do, that allows you to be creative but also business-minded.

Jason, there's one place to go for that, Squarespace. Yeah, Chris, I'm over here. I'm modifying calculators and putting Claude inside of them so you could cheat at school. And I just want a place where I could, you know, have everything all in one place. I can have the SEO tools so those future graduates can find me. And, you know, I'm able to accept, quote, unquote, donations for my services that might be gray area. You know what I mean? And then email campaigns. Hey, I got a new 2.3 version upgrade. Boom, boom, boom. Get the analytics going. Raise some money. Show your investor all of your cool analytics of what's going on. They're going to want to get in early. And we can use Blueprint AI to make your website look as professional as your competition, if not more. So head to squarespace.com slash howlong for a free trial. When you're ready to launch, use offer code howlong to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or a domain. This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by a new podcast from The Guardian stateside with Kai and Carter. This is covering a lot of our bases, Jason. It's trying to slow down. The news and wrestle with the questions we all have about what's happening in the world. And I know you particularly have quite a lot of questions. A lot of questions. But how often? Because we do this podcast three times a week and that's a sweet spot. How many times do they do? Three times a week. And I have a feeling just based on the platform and these talking points that they're maybe going to be covering different stuff than we do. That's just a guess. The Guardian is not some billionaire owned. They're not afraid to say what they want to say, brother. Yeah, Rupert ain't sniffing around in what journalists Kai Wright and Carter Sherman are up to over there at Stateside. But yeah, listen wherever you get your podcasts. You can watch it on YouTube. It's three times a week. And who couldn't use more news? Especially when it's not from here, let's say. Give it a listen. Give it a listen. all right this freak oh baby all right you're looking damn bro you're looking like a disney star right now with the hair i like that appreciate it bro just for the record young glaive is coming to us from what looks like a hotel room his hair is um blonde and the and it's quite full of course because he's like 21 um but yeah you're looking like you could be on sweet life of zach and cody right now 21 how old are you

I'm 19, brother. You're 19. That's why you look even more like you could be on a fucking Disney show. You're actually age appropriate. Yeah, yeah. I'm trying to get to 40. I'm trying to get to 40 soon. You're trying to get to 40 years old soon? Like probably within the next eight months. Okay, so you're trying to, instead of trying to age backwards like Jason and I, who are in our 40s, you're saying you're trying to accelerate that and get there a little sooner. Bruh, so I feel like I was 15 for like two years. Now I feel like I was like 17 for like five years. Now I feel like I've been 19 for like 10. Yeah. So it's... I just overall, I think I've gotten to about 40. I feel like mentally about 27 at the moment. I agree with that. I know a lot of 27s who are not as smart as you. That's for goddamn sure. Okay, well, I didn't mean it in an intelligence way. I wouldn't say smart, but I mean, you know, he's got something going on. You know what I mean? He's got something going on. Are you in a hotel right now? Is that for reals? Yes. I'm in a hotel in Brooklyn. Okay. Oh, man. I thought you were doing better than that. They can't put you in Manhattan? You got some streams? I know I have some streams. I'm in a Holiday Inn in Brooklyn, bro. It's just the way it is. Bro, that's crazy. We got to talk to management. We got to talk to management about this. That's what I'm saying, bro. Are you paying for this or is somebody else paying for this? No, I'm paying for it. Okay. You're paying for it. So I could blame you, kind of. Yeah, no. I'm really cheap. Like, really cheap. I mean, I hate spending money. It's just a room. It's not like I'm going to be here. I'm leaving in a few days. I have a show today. So, overall, it's the best option. Ideal situation is I don't have to spend any money. Second best option is staying somewhere. It's not bad. Like, I have a nice little window. It's chill. Yeah, it's not a jail cell. I'm familiar with, yeah, but I just, okay, I didn't even know they had those. How far deep in Brooklyn are you? I don't know where we are. Downtown Brooklyn, maybe? Oh, okay. I have no idea. Okay, where's the show? Where's the show? Oh, brother, you're asking me too many New York questions. I have no fucking clue. You don't know where your own show is? He's opening for Toro.

Toro y Moi, right? Yes, I'm opening for Toro y Moi at the Knockdown Center. Oh, Knockdown Center. Okay, wow. You know, I got to be honest, I've never been there because it's too far. It's just too far. I don't know. Legendary venue. The only places I know in New York are Manhattan and Bushwick. That sounds about right. And the Bronx. And somebody told me I should never stay in the Bronx and I don't really want to stay in Bushwick. And Manhattan, I looked at the prices and it was a little expensive. Well, that's actually interesting because Manhattan and Bushwick are the only places where people know who you are. So it works out pretty well. But yes, listen to your friends and don't go to the Bronx with your little ass, especially where you're trying to flex on those hoes with your little fake stacks and stuff. You'll get took real quick. You will get took. You don't have a face to do it. Do you have a face tat yet? No, I do have a hand one. Oh, shit. So, hold on. Did you skip straight ahead to hand, or do you have other stuff? Bruh, I got hella. Wait, hold up. They can't see this, obviously. Yeah, he's tatted up. Okay, we got the stomach tats. I have a back tattoo. It's pretty big. All right, so he's got a 24-inch waist and several tattoos, ladies and fellas. Ladies and fellas. I have a 28-inch waist. Okay. Let's be real. We got to stop. You've been bulking. I'm huge. I'm like 6'4", 150 pounds. Come on, man. Anybody in the Bronx wants to come get up with me, they can do it. Just kidding. No, I don't want that. Okay, so Glaive, he's in Brooklyn, and if you want to catch the fade, he's ready. He's serving it up on a platter. All 150 pounds of him. I'm outside. He's outside. He's tatted up. I'm outside the Holiday Inn. Let's run it. Let's run the fade, bro. Oh, Jesus Christ. Actually, please don't. Is the tattoo on your side? Please don't. Is that a Pokemon on your side? Pokemon? I don't think so. The other side. It's like a circle, like a little...

some kind of character like a round thing on no it's from a france it's from a francisco goya painting of course okay so you're the kind of guy that brings in a painting to the tattoo shop and says i want this the worst kind of customer there is um i like francisco goya i thought he was i was like no that's fine no it's fine to like the painting but you have to be like me or jason and you go up you go into the tattoo shop and you merely look at the wall And pick one. I can't do that. That's the only tattoos I'm going to get. That's how tattoos were invented. I respect the originality of the early. He says he walks into a tattoo shop and he has an actual sword with him. And he's like, all right, dude, I want this. I want this. Yeah, I do have. I have a lot. I have four swords now in total. One of them is in New York. Not with me, but I have it. I had to leave it here because I couldn't go across the border with it. If you could believe that. So you copped, you're saying you copped in New York and you had to leave it with a homie? Exactly. And now he just has one of my swords. So you have a friend who's holding your sword? Not in like a gay way, in like a bro way. No, we're talking about in the literal sense, he is housing... Housing one of your weapons. You're not calling your penis a sword. I understood that. Not right now, but he has before. I don't think I have. I think you're putting words in my mouth. Jason's been known to do that. He's been known to do that. You've got to watch it with him. He's a crazy guy. I'm a sniper. You can't really be... Don't slip around me. Okay, so since last we spoke, has your frontal lobe developed completely yet, or are we still a little iffy? Nah, nah. Definitely hasn't developed completely. Last time we spoke, I was what? It was last year, and I was on tour. I guess I still kind of do the same shit. I go on tour, and I sing, and I make songs, but I definitely feel a lot less...

immature i don't know if i feel necessarily more mature but i definitely feel a lot less immature if that makes any sense yeah that's a good distinction that's a good distinction to make yeah do you do you okay so you feel a little more grown but is there has anything happened or do you think it's just time um i i think things have happened like i i kind of moved back to north carolina like permanently which i haven't even really done because i was just in europe for a while but like i moved back to north carolina because you were in la right i was in la i was like Whenever I wasn't touring, I was either in L.A. or going somewhere kind of weird to make music. But I kind of always came back to L.A. And then I kind of took a sort of collection of how I was feeling over the last year. And I was really kind of going through it late last year. So I was like, damn, this shit fucked up. And I realized I just don't like L.A. And I really like North Carolina. So I decided to move back permanently. And then I bought a house in North Carolina. And then a fucking massive hurricane came. Are you okay? Is everybody good? Everybody's good. My whole family's good. Obviously, I don't know if you guys have heard about it. Of course. Yeah, we've heard about it. Yeah, it's a big, bad news story. Yeah, the most insane storm of all time in North Carolina. Like in the last 1,000 years, supposedly. You know what's so crazy about it to me? Is that it's like... i you we forget that that can happen in a place that's not a coast like it's the mountains it doesn't really make sense you know well i think that's the reason that it's so bad because i think like places like florida like that amount of rain kind of often but north carolina people just nobody was expecting it first off like my parents knew it was gonna rain but they didn't realize it was gonna be so bad and i don't know it's just crazy it was but you guys your family you're good your family's good is your house good family's good My house is good. A bunch of trees fell on it, but nothing broke. I was getting the roof replaced anyways, so it's not the end of the world. Nothing bad's happened. It was more just like, my parents haven't had power in like a week now. It's just, it's some crazy shit. That's like the first thing that's ever happened in my hometown, ever.

But, and it was not a good first fucking thing. Because are you, you're from Asheville. I'm from Hendersonville, which is like 40 minutes from Asheville. Okay. And Hendersonville is not quite as bad as Asheville. Asheville got like 30 inches of rain. I think Hendersonville got like 25. Yeah. Still a lot. It's a lot. It was just. I don't know. It's crazy. But like I said, everybody's good. I'm not there right now, and I'm not going back, unfortunately, because I have to go to Alaska. But my mom's doing volunteer work, and they're fixing up the city. So I think we're all going to – It'll bounce back. It'll bounce back. 100%. I have no doubt. But it was definitely kind of a wild week. Yeah, that's insane. Yeah, that's really crazy. And it's awful that it happened. Between you and MJ Lenderman, we're indie rock. independent music i think indigo jason indigo de souza's house got fucked up like i was talking to rusty jake jake's manager and he's like he had to evacuate like it's a whole it's it's like it's kind of even when you see the pictures when you talk to someone you're like oh this is actually worse than i thought it was 100 like from looking at pictures it's crazy there's like my mom just went to my house to like look at it for the first time today and there's like it could have been really bad. Like a bunch of like trees fell everywhere and it could have gone a lot worse, but I think I got really lucky. Um, and I talked to a kid who's like a bit, who really liked my music and he like, didn't get so lucky. And we talked about it and like, I helped him out with this GoFundMe thing, and I was like, damn, I got really lucky. You did? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. It's a thing that you don't ever imagine that it's going to happen to you, but then it does, and it seems like a super big deal, and obviously it is a super big deal, but then you're kind of like, well, fuck. I either give up on life and just fucking move away, or you're like, fuck, we got to figure out this shit. You push through. If you don't have insurance, then you can give up on life, but hopefully you were sorted. No, I have insurance. 100% have insurance. Okay, you are mature. You are mature. I barely have insurance. His mommy made him get insurance, bro. His mommy made him get insurance. Yeah, I know you didn't do that shit yourself. There's a business manager or somebody. Yeah, you're right. Why are you going to Alaska? Are you trying to eat some whale? What are you doing in Alaska? Okay, so I've already been to Alaska before.

um we can get to this later but i went to iceland earlier this year to make an album um okay and it's coming out soon which is awesome sauce so we have to make another one as a musician does um and so my friend lives in alaska his wife is pregnant um so we can't really convince him to go anywhere else yeah so we have to go to him and he lives in alaska So we're going up there. We're going to this place called Big Lake. To make music or just to kick it? To make music. Okay, okay. No, just to make music, which is funny because it's called Big Lake, and you'll never guess why it's named that. Because there's a big lake. Okay, okay. Big-ass lake. All right, I didn't know you were such – you have a little bit of a nature kink, don't you? Oh, I love any place that kind of looks like North Carolina. That's what I was getting at. That's what I was getting at. Any place that looks like North Carolina, like you've got some mountains. I like the cold a lot. I like wearing like a lot of layers and you can't really do that. Okay, so you got the Andy and the Rick on up in Alaska because it's a little chilly. What do you know about Andy? Okay, so that's the only reason why you left LA is because you were unable to layer all the Rick. Yeah, exactly. Well, not as much that. More like... drees van noten but i get what you're saying okay good fair okay look i got it no that's a step in the right direction i mean look i respect rick's art but most people can't pull that off you are the rare person that could no i don't think i can bruh but this shirt but okay let's let's talk about it then this shirt margello these pants drees these shoes greedy what the fuck you know about it what the fuck I'm the only person in Hendersonville, North Carolina that's wearing this shit. That is fair. I know a lot of people who are wearing that shit, but in Hendersonville, North Carolina, Glaive is the only one in the Margella. That is absolutely right. That's the context you gotta add. Not to be a braggadocious little bitch. It's okay to swag out. That's kind of why we had you back on the podcast is because you are a braggadocious little bitch and we love it.

And so do our listeners. How long are you going to be in Alaska? We're going. So I'm going. I am going to go home for one day after New York, and then I'm going to be there for 10 days, I think. And who all is in the crew that goes to Alaska? What's the squad looking like? Oh, my God. I get to shout out to my brothers. Okay. We got. So the person. Brother time. My real live brothers. Ralph Costelli, who's the one that lives in Alaska, my friend John Cunningham, Jeff Hazen, and Tommy Pointer. Three of them are producers, and then Tommy is just there to film stuff. And they all came to Iceland with me earlier this year, and it was an awesome trip, which I really enjoyed. So this is kind of your squad that you work with? Yeah. And these guys all play instruments and do everything? Yeah. I mean, I don't know how much – everyone can play the guitar. It doesn't really matter. Maybe I'll do one or two songs for the guitar. They're playing Ableton, Chris. They're playing Ableton. That's all you need to know about. I mean, I was hoping... Tommy's got the 5D. Tommy's got the 5D with the fisheye. You already know what it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. I was hoping there might be some live drums. Sorry for getting excited. We have... We do... Yeah, nothing's really... I mean, there's a guitar that's live. For certain songs it is, but the majority of stuff is kind of electronic. But yeah, they're all uber-talented guys. And I genuinely think that making music with them is like... the happiest i am and it sucks because you can't really do it all the time the moments that are special is when it's like really short they're not really short 10 days is fucking long as fuck but it's not like an all the time thing it's every once in a while like maybe twice a year but in in 10 days will you finish a record i mean in iceland we finished it in 14 well we made 14 songs we made a song a day so maybe but let me ask let me ask this when you go in that's impressive let's like do you have you have some ideas you're not starting from scratch no i never have any idea i mean i'm i i really i'm not very good at like writing songs i don't sit there and like i'm like sitting there like oh i'm gonna write a song about this i write down like maybe a one line that i think of randomly but i will never like sit there and be like oh look at this song i wrote on the guitar this is not the way i do it yeah so we kind of go there and with iceland i had no idea

i got really lucky i feel like that we made a bunch of songs that i really liked but like i feel like we there's a there's an equal amount of chance that i go there and cannot think of anything and we just fucking sit around and maybe like drink a beer Every once in a while. Sure, sure. Eat some cheese. You're telling me that guys making music might sit around and drink a beer? That's fucking crazy, bro. I've never heard anything like that. No, I've heard everything. I've heard everything. Okay, so what's an example? When you were in Iceland and those 14 songs, are these the songs that you're releasing little snippets of on Instagram and shit? Yes. Yeah, we went to this little town. um like two hours away from it's not even a town we were like an hour away from a town we were two hours away from reshovic uh we made yeah the 14 songs it was an emotional ass trip two of the people i won't air their shit out but they got almost got into a fight um okay so we had so we had some okay we it was it was going down in the lab it was going just think about like i don't know how often this happens for y'all because like y'all are y'all both married or just one of you's married yeah we're both married yeah okay lit that's what's up i'm trying to get there too bruh um But that's what's up. Hey, you got plenty of time, bro. Don't rush. Don't rush. You're fine. Really? I'm trying to rush. Yeah, you don't need to be a child bride. You got time. I'm trying to get married like – never mind. We'll talk about it later. But, yeah, like it's just kind of when you're with five men for like 14 days and you're not sleeping, it can create kind of like a masculine vacuum. Yeah. I think. And everyone's super – like I feel like none of us are super masculine. We're all kind of like – girly vibed but oh we know oh yeah okay but it just like regardless of what color your fingernails are three dicks in one room for two weeks straight you know it's gonna get a little something in there it's gonna smell crazy in there you're gonna get to fighting you're gonna start drinking you know all that it's gonna smell crazy it's gonna smell crazy because all the vape smoke but there's other stuff going on too i'm sure yeah what you know about that my brother what you know about that my brother at home he held up his jewel his og jewel it was not a swisher sweet it was not anything cool it was a man it was a wood

It was a wood. It was a wood. It was a digital wood. So you're saying that some tensions arose, but you think that added to the final product? Oh, my God. 100%. I think that, like, so the last day we were there, it was the day before that, not everyone, but people got, it got intense. We'll say that much. And then we made three songs the last day. So, like. It kind of needed to happen. I don't know. It's awesome. It's like my favorite thing to do in the world. And when it's happening, it's kind of like, damn, this sucks. I was like sleeping from like 7 a.m. to like 2 and then doing music for all day just sitting there. So it's like not a very healthy thing to do. But because it's so short. I just don't understand. Why do you guys got to do this shit all night? Why don't you just wake up? 7 a.m., you're in the lab at 9 a.m., and you're done at 7. You start like that, bro. You start like that, and you're like, nah, this is great. And by day five, you drank, you drank. You done drank five Icelandic beers and it's four o'clock in the morning and y'all are like, nah, bro, we got to make a song right now. And that's how it gets out. Well, yeah, once it's like midnight, 2 a.m. and then like you finally got like verse two locked in and you got like the baseline locked in and you have to you can't go to sleep until it's done. Exactly. Exactly. It's not like I would. I'd obviously rather fucking wake up. Oh, why don't we wake up? 8 a.m. and then finish at 12 and then go walk around and do fucking kiss each other on the lips. That's just not, unfortunately, how the way my brain works. Do Pilates, get an acai bowl, and we'll be in bed at 8.30. You wrote and recorded an album in 14 days from scratch, and that normally takes people months and months. So you just took three months of hard work and condensed it into two weeks, and then you're done. Yeah. And then now that whole thing's out of your system. yeah you're good i mean i've always kind of made music to like be less insane in the mind and when you do the really intense things i feel good for like a month to two months after i just feel like like like i let it like i feel like great like kind of an empty bucket of water it feels yeah you get it you get a mental clarity after you get it all out 100 your brain balls have drained your brain balls have exactly been everywhere

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and i learned about this term like knock draw release which is what they said when like i don't know it makes kind of sense with the bow and arrow you like knock the bow and then you draw and then you release and that's how they would like call that out and um i really like the idea of that trying to make that into like a a relationship thing and like trying to make it take a second and then breathe and like then like put you like say what you're thinking i don't know i don't really know how to describe it but like i want to see like applying applying that kind of that yeah idea to real life yeah exactly and that was like one of the examples but there's another song where i'm like i i love saying the swords are drawn they really are i said it in two songs one really one song that was on that i just thought it was the swords are drawn they really are i like it's just like so you're like this shit's too good i gotta use it again fuck it i gotta do it run it back i was like nah that's just too fine bro but i don't know there's also stupid ass lyrics on the song i said i said on one of the songs the song's called freudian i was like it sounds a little freudian but i like girls that act just like my mother i don't mean that in a funny way um which i thought was good i don't know okay i just think it's funny bro okay so we're doing medieval psychological but we're through the lens of a 19 year old man trying to chase a bag and get some bitches yeah no bitches i got a girlfriend but yeah okay um wait now is it is it a different girlfriend than you had last time or is this the same one next question Oh, well, I'm happy for you. I'm happy for you. I appreciate that. So Shorty's up in the Holiday Inn right now. Congratulations. Good for you. Do you want to say hi? Yeah, I would love to, but it's crazy she's going to stay with you after you've took her to the Holiday Inn. That's crazy. Tell her she could get chose. She could stay at the Bowery. Stop. Don't say that. They want to talk to you. Here, put the headphones on. Actually, no, I don't want you to put the headphones on. Say it again.

She said hi. Okay. Here, just get in the camera for one second. Get in the camera. We just want to say what's up. Okay. Sweet. You're a soldier for staying at the Holiday Inn in Brooklyn. Stop talking about that, bro. This is lit to me. I agree. It is lit for you, and I need to think more like that. But also, he's a responsible young man. He's a homeowner. That's true. He's not going to waste his money on an overpriced New York hotel. He's going to take that money, invest it into the future. I was thinking about staying at the Ace Hotel. What y'all think about that? The one in Brooklyn is quite nice, actually. That one in downtown Brooklyn is like one of the nicer ones that exist in the Ace portfolio. Okay. Damn, you're so knowledgeable. Well, downtown Brooklyn's like rich white people. It's like everybody's got a stroller. It's a different environment for you, is what I'm saying, if you were to do that. That's all. I had a question. What does 60,000 ISK mean? It's the Icelandic money. Oh, okay. All right. You were blowing big faces in Iceland, is what you're saying. 60,000 ISK is how much we spent at the grocery store the first day we were there. And that was the second song we made. And you would think, like, it sounds like a lot. It sounds like I'm talking about some real cash. It's like $400. Okay, all right. So who was in charge of the pickled herring? Like, what the fuck were you eating? Because we know the food's bad. it was rough you can't get your hot cheetos and nerd clusters out there bro it's rough vibes when we make music because we're all like nobody cares about cooking like we all make music that's not our vibe so we cook bro we were eating different kind of cooking we're eating bullshit we're eating like chicken but like that's i don't even know like salmonella like the cooking the chicken like got up and cooked itself type vibe and i hate it it was bad it was not good um okay okay i love that you were like we're eating some fucked up food bro we had

chicken yeah yeah i thought you're gonna say some wild no i mean we didn't have any wild shit but it was a different kind of chicken it was bad i mean it was just like we suck at cooking so like it wasn't we ate like normal food so you don't have you don't have one of you don't have one of the homies that has watched too much anthony bourdain and decided that he's gonna do something okay one time my friend tommy who doesn't make music and is actually kind of good cooking made a steak and it was lit it was really good you try eating you try eating rice and butter for two weeks and then have chicken That chicken tastes like – that shit tastes good. Rice and butter. Rice and butter? That's like a jail meal. You never had rice and butter and pepper? No. And pepper. All right. My bad, bro. What do you mean? Hold on. What do you mean? What kind of pepper? Like black pepper. Oh, just black pepper. So it's like a jailhouse mac and cheese kind of? No. It's like you went to – I don't know where rice was invented, but wherever they invented it, and then that's as far as they got. It was real simple. Keep it simple. Like rice butter and some pepper. That's like what like an Asian family would feed their child as they're getting. It's like putting butter on top of spaghetti. Yeah. Sure. Sure. Okay. Just like for just very simple, but it tastes good. It was good. Yeah, definitely. I imagine you guys are just eating this out of like plastic bowls or like. cardboard boxes that you found on the ground or something. We're eating spoonfuls out the pot, brother. Straight up out the pot. This house in Iceland, I do not wish that smell on my enemies. It does smell bad. We smell good. Actually, all you young rich guys do be wearing cologne. That's a big thing. I know you guys got some scents on you. What's the fragrance right now? It's the Celine one that's like I don't know. Do you know what the name of it is? Black Tie, Celine Black Tie at the moment. Okay, so you're rocking Celine Black Tie. But I got it for free. But I got it for free. From your family at Celine?

Yes, they sent it to me. That's nice of them. One day they'll send you clothes. Then you know you made it. Come on. No, you start with fragrance. You start with fragrance and then clothes are next. Yeah, well, I guess on that topic, have you... No, no, no, stop. Y'all can't call me rich unless you would... Would you Venmo me $100? If I DM'd you and I was dead serious, I was like, Brad, can you Venmo me $100? Would you do it? Yeah, of course. Yeah. What about $1,000? Nah. Okay. If there's a good reason. If it's life or death. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. If you were, if you, if it was like, yo, I'm in jail. Sure. Yeah. I'll give you a thousand dollars. Not if you like are eyeballing some like Dior shoes and you need an extra stack. It's not going to be that. But if it is, if you're in danger, if you were in danger, yeah, of course. I don't know. But you wouldn't ask if I only asked for a hundred. No, if you asked for a hundred, I would just give it to you because I would assume you needed it worse than I did. If you need, if you're asking for a hundred. Yeah. I would Venmo you a hundred just for the screenshot. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. That'd be fine. All right. See? See? Just know I'm not rich because I wouldn't do that. You wouldn't do that. You would do it for a friend. You wouldn't do it for like a podcaster is what you're saying. Nah, I wouldn't do it for my own mom. All right. So you're not a bag chaser. You're a bag hoarder. You need to talk to a psychologist about this. No, I would. You cannot spend. I'm just joking. I would. On the subject of Celine and getting free shit, have you been approached for any modeling, any casting? Oh, my God. I feel like you're in that sweet spot right now. Bro, I don't want to talk about this. I just, I signed to a model. I mean, can I talk about this? Chris Bengler? Can I talk about the modeling stuff? Okay. My manager's here. And he's a big fan of your guy's show. What's up? I met Chris. I met Chris at the Japanese house show in New York. He told me not to show you where he's sitting right now. He's in the cuck chair, little bitch. Oh, he's in the cuck.

He's on the floor? He's on the floor. He's on the floor. We're at the Holiday Inn, baby. Alright, so you got a modeling contract. I went to a modeling agency and I went to Europe for two weeks. I went to Fashion Week in Milan and Fashion Week in Paris and I flopped flat on my fucking face. I went to ten hundred million castings and I flopped. You didn't book anything? No. It was so bad. I was like, fuck. Alright, did you have fun? Did you have fun? I had a blast, bro. It was a good time, but I was, like, kind of upset about it at the time, but now looking back, I was like, yeah, it was kind of lit. Well, I mean, first time, I mean, you know, like, something will happen for sure. Maybe this is, it wasn't this time. Well, it sounds like these guys over in Europe don't know how to do their job. Chris and I can get you casting some shit this week, no problem. Today. Maybe not, you know, runway, but something, you know, something. We're going to work our way up to Saint Laurent. How's your walk? that's i think was my problem i kind of walk like i like i don't like i just learned how okay okay so you have kind of kind of like a toddler-esque stumble yeah bro yeah i'm six foot four and my legs are i'm like 90 legs i don't know what they was expecting for real but okay okay well many models are six foot four that that's the thing yeah you kind of want to be six foot four all legs buck 50 soaking wet tatted up yeah i mean it was really fun other than the fact that i flopped bad it was a good time okay okay i mean look i i that can be humbling but maybe you needed that and you'll come back stronger next time we have yeah we have a lot of listeners right now who are in the fashion biz you know just we'll make sure we get some headshots sent over to them do you have any listeners plant some seeds for you do you have any listeners that would venmo me a hundred dollars yes yeah you you might have to do something in exchange for that yeah but yes You might have to show some feet at least. Yeah, get you out of those guidies and show the toes, and then we can talk. That's awesome. I'd do anything for $100. I'll do anything for $100. Okay, so I guess another thing that happened since we last spoke.

we're doing we're we're independent no label is that is that what's going on yes sir um that did happen but it was an amicable split you guys you it's all good yeah it was it was super amicable i i feel like a lot of young people that get taken advantage of crazy with with label stuff but i definitely didn't feel like that i mean the guy who signed me to endoscope is from north carolina love him to death talk to him still he's a really good guy really good company still brother that's still that's still my brother my twin my twin flames but i was just like i i got i mean i've been signed to a label since i was 15 i'm 19 now i turn 20 next year like getting a little older and i understand a little bit more about how it works and i kind of just wanted to like have a little bit more ownership in general because it's my music and uh i thought it was a fun thing there's like no harm no foul Okay, beautiful. So are you doing this? You're doing this independently, but I imagine you have a distribution partner. Yeah, there's a distribution thing going on. But I just didn't want to be like a label guy, if that makes sense. Yeah, I'm the opposite. But I know how young people are. You guys think you can do it your own way or whatever. So God bless. I mean, we're the same way. We're nimble. It's just the two of us. We do it all ourselves. We do have a team for some other things, but like booking and some things. We like to have control and we do it ourselves and you don't want to have some person. My problem with the music industry is everyone who works at labels, agencies, all that shit, managers, half of them are more into like college football than loving music. you know and they're it's just they just think it's like a cool job to work in the industry yeah and they don't give a fuck and they don't have a good taste yeah i just so why have that person be in charge bro they look don't talk about them like you know you're not gonna get those noah cahan tickets if you keep talking like this so you better you better chill bro you're gonna piss some people off the man the man is gonna silence you brother the big

The invisible hand. The band is going to sign. No, I mean, Jason, I've told you that story before about the first A&R guy that signed the band I used to manage. The first time I met him, I was like, are you kidding? This is the guy who decides this? This fucking jabroni from Long Island who drives a Harley? This guy has no taste at all. How is this possible? They're retweeting barstool links and shit like that. I'm the person who's in charge of music. You're going to tell me that this album cover is – you don't like the way it looks? Like, what, dude? Like, I can't – I don't even want to have dinner with you. So I understand that. I understand that part of it. And he's paying. I still don't want to have dinner. No, I understand that part. I understand that part of it. But, I mean, has it been any more work for you or it's the same for you? I mean, the only more – it's not any more work. It's just I have to pay for everything, which kind of sucks. Sure. Like spending $10,000 of somebody else's money feels like nothing. It's nothing. It didn't even happen. Spending $10,000 of my own money, holy balls. It feels like getting shot in the fucking face. Well, you believe in yourself. You're investing in yourself and your future, and you believe that what you're doing will make money. 100%. I think it would, too. Are you accepting any investment right now? Yeah, $100 on Venmo. I'll do anything. All right, yeah, I'll get a little. I need a couple songwriting credits right now. I'll take your masters, please. Let me get your masters real quick. All right, Brad, just $100 on Venmo. We can figure it out. Just $100. I like that. I like that. It's kind of a flat fee. Okay, when are you going to release this Icelandic album then, since you've got to do it all by your ass? There's a single coming out tonight with my friend from Wales, and then it comes out like a week later. I haven't announced it or anything. I'm just going to like put it. What was who's who's the guy from Wales? OK, so I got. Oh, my God. That's my real life brother. That's like a Loki, my closest friend. His name's his name's curtains. One day you got to talk to him because that shit would be riveting. Holy man. So he's curtains is a musician. He's a musician. He sings. He's good. He has a line on the song where he says curtains with a K to be clear. Yes, curtains with a K. And he's a line on the song coming out tonight that I really that I really like where he says, I want you down on your legs sucking my shit.

That's my favorite bar on that song. That literally sounds like something Jason would say. So I know that he likes that. You said down on your legs? Yeah. Suck in my shit. So they do it different out in Wales. The Welsh are an interesting folk. They are. No, he is the most interesting person ever. He's in the booth. He says that line and everyone's like. I mean... Okay, sounds good. I think we got it. Okay, how did you and Curtin's link up? Was this like an Instagram thing and then you finally got together? No, I've known him since I was 14. We met on a video game called CSGO. Wow. And he was making music when I wasn't making music. He kind of showed me how to make music. Then we've kind of been really good friends ever since. We came really close over like the last year or so. Like, that's really like... I was just in Paris with him. I love him to death. He's like... Sweet. I don't know. Hard to understand because he's like... His brain works in a mysterious way, but he's lit. I love him to death. How is his career going? How is his music? Is it working? It's definitely working. It's like people really like it. His only problem is he didn't put out music for two years because he was just like, whatever. The one thing that I'm not with music is shy. I'll put shit out if people don't like it. people do like it it doesn't matter to me whereas he gets a little more nervous about it sure and i just don't have any of those reservations so i think he has an album that he made recently that is just fucking like mind-blowingly good and he's just amazing and i think as soon as he like puts out enough music people are gonna find it and people are gonna hopefully they hear some music from curtains you just have to get out of your own way curtains the album is done it's amazing exactly i'm gonna send this to him and he gonna be like yeah i mean that really is a problem a lot of people suffer from where it's like they just cannot they can't it's it's a mental thing they can't conquer yeah and it's it's definitely like it's hard to fathom when that's not the way i feel about it but yeah i understand that it's it's his thing and if he wants it he'll get it whenever he wants it in my mind like if he decided to take music serious in 10 years like he could fucking do it then but it's a process so but i love him that's like real life like my closest friend so beautiful and you met on a game called cs go yeah counter-strike global offensive got it okay have you heard of it oh

Oh, yeah, sorry. I never heard the short form of the name, but yes, I've heard of Counter-Strike. Counter-Strike sounds like a good hardcore band. That's what I've always thought about that, but I know that it's a game for young people. That's like a killing game, right? Yeah, I guess it's like a terrorist game. So you're the terrorist or you're beating the terrorists? Some days you're the terrorist, some days you're not. And that is true in more ways than one. Ain't that the truth, brother? Damn, that hit me right here. That hit me right here. That's serious shit. Do you like being a little sniper terrorist, low-key? I don't want to answer that too much, but I like playing video games. I don't know. I don't want to answer that too much. I got a couple questions. I got a couple questions, Glaive. Where were you on January 6th? If you just haven't, I just, I got to ask. I don't want to answer that too much right now. I was somewhere, bro. None of your business. Yeah, sure. Yeah, that's okay. You were shooting a video, not a school. I fuck with it. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. You were on tour. You were on tour with. kid laroi and toro imo this year no i haven't gone toro toro i'm just doing one show oh you're just doing one show okay i opened for the kid laroi yeah yeah you're you're on his newest album yeah yeah tell me what tell us what happened with the with the kid laroi tour what's it like opening up with the kid it was cool i mean i hate opening no disrespect to opening but like it's more fun to like do your own show why do you hate opening i don't hate hate it hate is a strong word for sure but i get more nervous And I try to minimize my nervousness in general when I can. But I thought it was really good. Like, obviously, he's like a close friend and I'm a big fan of his music. But sometimes it's just like, damn, I don't think that like sometimes you can really do the best performance ever. And if they just don't fuck with you, they don't fuck with you. Yeah. And that's completely fine. It's not there to see you. You're kind of just forced to forcing them to watch you sing. But those shows were big. Yeah, they were. I mean, he did Radio City Music Hall in New York, which is like kind of awesome sauce. But is there audience crossover? It's like the same kind of thing? Definitely like some. There's definitely like some crossover. I think he's like so big to a point where it's like not.

fully but like yeah for sure definitely some but i i really enjoyed it it's like with the people like uh like b but doobie and other people when they open for taylor swift like yeah exactly no one's like booing them but like we're all here to see taylor we're all here to see kidleroy like we fuck with glaive like he's cool it's all good but like see here's but i would be happy if he stopped If he stops performing and Kid Leroy comes on, I would be happier and no disrespect. That would be nice. That would be nice. Yeah, but when you open those tours, it's easy because you just go in, you do 30 minutes, you leave. Exactly. And that's it. It's like minimal. You get your check. Yeah. But then you also have a bunch of people who are looking at you like, get the fuck off stage. Yeah. Some days it was like that. Some days people really fucked with it. And that's like all I think you could really ask for is an opener. It's not like. How many people were on this? Who was on stage with you? It was just me. Bro, all right, so the track is playing, you're singing. Just me. I'm, like, running around. Okay, I like this. This is how we keep our pockets fat. You ain't got no bongo player. It was me, Tommy, David, Seth. It was four people. We got some people. He had some brudda, but there's no band. But you have crazy visuals, and you probably have strobe lights and shit. I did a band for my last tour, like my actual tour, but I kind of got, I really went, I went to a lot of, like, i don't know like i just watched a lot of electronic shows and i got kind of like damn i don't need a band anymore so my next tour i'm like no band which is i don't want people to think i'm doing it for the money because i jet ass don't make no money off going on no tour it's just it's just i do it for the love of the love of the damn game um but i really um but i don't know i think you made a little money on the kidleroy tour bro come on okay maybe that but with the glaive tour it's more like the kidleroy tour yeah

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a marketing expense for your own thing. Yeah, 100%. Do you all know who Blade is? Like B-L-A-D-E-E? Oh, yeah. He got a girlfriend too, right? He does have a girlfriend. I saw that. He had a song where he said, I went broke from doing concerts. And that's how I feel sometimes. Yeah, that's real. Yeah, I mean, if I made my teeth red, maybe people wouldn't want to see me either. But that's just me. Yeah, I'm getting there, bro. Yeah, but both you and Blade, you go on tour, you get the production. The buses, the flights, the crew. All so you could sell hoodies with swords screen printed on them. You know, that's what it all boils down to, right? Amen, my brother. Exactly. That's what we all do it for. No, yeah. That's what we all do. That's where you get the bag. Yeah. That's what we all do it for, no? It is. So you can put like a big crest on a hoodie. That's what life was all about. That's what we started this shit for. That's the only reason. You got to remember, you got to tap the wall every time you go out. Why do we do this, brother? Big-ass Chris costs a lot of money at the screen printing shop, right? Yes. Multiple colors. Is that good printing, too? It could be a couple screens. I mean, they've got to store them. It's a whole thing. When you're opening for Leroy, you're doing 75 cities all over the world. I just saw recently Troy Sivan was opening, was playing the show with Charlie in Boston, and he said, like, what's up, Chicago? Have you ever done that before? Shouted out the wrong city on stage. I didn't do that on Kid Leroy tour, but I've done it before. I was in, like, Missouri, and I said, what's up, Kansas City? And they got, they were like, no! I was like, boy, shut the fuck up. I was like, boy, shut the fuck up. But, hold on. Kansas City is, I mean. That's what I said, but I was in another city. I was in, like. Oh, okay, okay. My brother, I have no idea. I was in Kansas City the day before, but then I thought we drove to Kansas City 2. I didn't know. Kansas City Part 2. I was like, oh. There's two, and they're real nearby. It confuses a lot of people, even full-grown adults who have lived in America their whole life. Yeah. They're still unsure about it. I was unsure, but I mean, I try not to. I love touring, and I kind of try to go around the cities as much as possible. So normally I get it right. I'll be like, what's up, Boise, Idaho? Sure, of course. I didn't know you played places like this. You've played in the depths of America.

You ever been to Grand Rapids, Michigan, brother? Funny you say that. Yes, very recently, actually. I kind of liked it. I really liked it, too. And I think Boise, Idaho is one of the better cities I've been to in America. That's why I think about it all the time. You know what? I've never been to Boise. But, you know, if the opportunity arises, I'll make the trip. What do you like about Boise so much? I don't know. Good name. It's like Boise. Yahoo! i don't know i like yeah the only is a good name there's no cities i don't really like to be honest i okay i don't want to disrespect nobody but i did i've never been to a glaive show in i think it was milwaukee but i did laroi show and it was not bad they fucked with me kind of but i walked out and in the front row there's just a guy going like this thumbs down i walk out i'm like bruh fuck did i do but it's whatever he didn't even give me a chance for real i was like damn i like that i want to be that guy enjoy my songs first before you hate on me no it was fine i understood like if i was if i was fucking 14 and some white guy walked on stage it isn't the kid laroi i'm throwing a thumbs down too yeah yeah i understand yeah that's that's because they yeah yeah it's like you're right i'm here to see the fucking i need you to stay it's like i want to hear no hyper pop turn that turn that shit off shout out milwaukee speaking of hyper pop blade all this shit what what is what is the musical direction for your alaska album are we going into a new route or is this standard glaive country i don't know i mean i have no idea i don't like i guess the iceland album you could say is like more hyper poppy because it's like very electronic but i don't know i don't think that i'm like at the point i feel like i've been making music long enough now where it's like i'm not fucking not all the songs on my album there's like a kind of damn near country acoustic guitar song then there's like oh there's a song for me this is good okay that good to know exactly it's real it's real sad i mean there's uh there's a lot of like there's like a hard style song there's like a lot of like songs that to me sound like future but every time i say that to people they're like nah you don't sound nothing like future but i'm like nah this sounds like future to me because the beats like

you know like a future beat and i was like damn this sound like future but nobody agrees with me it's like it's very electronic though and i think i'd imagine i'll keep doing that but i also have no idea we could go to fucking alaska and i'm like i really want to make a song like the beatles that's one thing i love the okay just found out about just straight just just straight up the beatles they have a large catalog started liking the beatles this year what album are we fucking with uh the one with the sergeant peppers sergeant peppers lonely hearts club that shit is crazy Yes, it is. It's kind of considered one of the greatest pieces of music ever made. Yeah, but like everybody was saying about old music. It's like I didn't really know. But then I listened to it. This is just a whole different song, not off that album. But Blackbirds, holy, how did they come up with that? That shit pissed me off. I listened to that this week. That's as good as it gets. You're saying fuck the Beatles because it's too good is what you're saying. Not fuck the Beatles. I fuck with the Beatles. I feel bad that Brad died. Like for real, I felt bad about it. for real prayers up to all all the beatles brothers exactly exactly but i'm not like i won't sit here in line be like oh my parents were listening to the beatles like no not really my dad like acdc and i'm not listening to acdc no acdc sucks that's that's fair i i i mean i think discovering the beatles uh at any age is probably a positive for someone who makes yeah when i when i was 19 i was doing mushrooms and listening to the beatles and like oh shit bro this is a whole other level type shit yeah I definitely think I got into a lot more revered music. Obviously, I listen to Skrillex, and he's probably the most revered person I listen to. But a lot of stuff I listen to is really weird SoundCloud music. So I want to make a... I'm not saying that I haven't made an objectively good song, but the Beatles make music where I'm like, damn, anybody can listen to this and be like, nah, this is fire. I think a lot of my music... Right, right, right. A lot of people... I want to just try. I don't know if I'll ever be able to make it. I really have a weird taste in stuff that I like.

So if I made a song sound like the Beatles, I might not even like it. But I think that that's kind of the goal, is to make a song that sounds like the Beatles. That's a great exercise. I think a lot of bands get into the lab and say, let's make a song as good as the Beatles' Blackbird and see how that goes. I'm sure your manager that's laying on the floor of a Holiday Inn right now would like you to make a song like that too, brother. Yeah, he's like, yeah, that's a great idea. Stop making this VARC shit. Sounds like a fucking icicle killing a raven. And give me a little hit with an acoustic guitar, fam. Give me a song with a chorus. We're off to the races, baby. Yeah, don't make a song that's about, like, cleaning up a puddle of blood. Let's, you know, maybe finding a girlfriend. Something like that. Yeah, a nice little glaive love song. That could really get on the charts. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. There's not really a love song, but it's cool. I don't know. Everything's cool. Everything's lit. I think all the Glaive songs are love songs. Yeah, we're happy for you, bro. I appreciate that. We are happy for you. What are you going to do for the holidays? What are you going to do for the holidays? What holiday? Halloween and Christmas. Okay, Halloween. You a Halloween guy? I don't know. I don't really care about that. No, not really. My parents, when I was like 10, was like, now you're getting too old, bro. We got to shut this shit down. That's good parenting. That's good parenting. They are. That's good parenting. They're beasts. Your parents are beast mode. Dude, y'all should get my mom on this. Is your mom lit? Okay. Is that even a question, my brother? My mom is dumb lit. She's a genius. I love my mom. So sweet. But yeah, and for Christmas, I don't know. I want to have Christmas in my house. This is the first time I'll be living alone, hypothetically. I don't know. We'll see. I want Curtains to live with me, throwback to my brother. But he is banned from America because he came here and did a show and got paid, and now he's banned. But we'll see. Maybe a visa works out. But I don't know. I just want to, like, chill. I've been doing a lot of stuff this year, so I'd like to, like, chill. Do you have more shows, or is this kind of it? I have this show, and then I have, like, a – not a DJ, but it's like a – do you know who Isonok is? Or, like –

bass hunter it's like loud fucking dance music i'm doing a show like that in december and uh then i'm actually i don't know i don't know if i should say when i'm going i'm going on tour next year oh you are okay good but that's the glaive tour it's the glaive tour that's big dogs the boss again exactly exactly you gotta deal with chas's little ass and what he wants to do it's up to you exactly exactly little toro brain dead on stage yeah you gotta yeah he's like nah not tonight it's glaive hour baby exactly exactly but yeah i don't have any big i don't ever have any plans i don't know we'll see what happens hopefully i do something lit And awesome. Hopefully, that's when I wake up every day and I look in the mirror and I say, hopefully we do something lit today, Chris. Let's do it. Let's do it. Do you have a pickup truck? Do you have a pickup truck yet, Glyph? Me? No, I do have a car, though. I did buy a car. I forgot to tell you about that. I bought a car. What did we get? The Aston Martin, the Maserati? I got a Mercedes-Benz C300. Oh, you got the Baby Mama. That's nice. Okay, so you're like a hairdresser in Atlanta. That's good. That's good. What color did you get? It's black. Okay, black. What's the interior looking like? Mocha? It's black. It's black interior. Black interior. Black on black. Did you put the – I was thinking about getting black rims. No, I don't – it has great speakers, really good speakers. I haven't seen that car in months. Because I bought it because I was going to live in L.A. And I was like, nah, I can't live here. So then I shipped it back. And now it's just been in North Carolina. I've been gone for like a month. So I'm excited. So you're going to take it out. Hendersonville doesn't know what hit him when they hear you pulling up, listening to some loud-ass techno at the stop and shop. He's going to pull up. Pull up. Scary monsters and nice sprites blasting. He said Harris Teeter parking lot is not ready if they ain't ready. Do they have Harris Teeter in other parts of the world? Do they have Fresh Market in other parts of the world? That shit is lit. If they could get one in New York, y'all should do it. I know Harris Teeter from the Carolinas, but there's Fresh Markets in Florida for sure. There's Fresh Market in Miami.

No, there's not one in New York for sure. New York's is too hard. My girlfriend lives in Miami. That place is crazy. Yeah, your skin tone ain't going to work there, bro. You're going to get burnt. I don't know. I feel like I'm Hispanic at heart. You are. You sound like Jason. I mean, you are literally Hispanic in a way, but I'm white, so I don't know. It's an unanswerable question. You got to put on your sunscreen before you hit South Beach. Are you afraid of going to Miami? Am I afraid of going to Miami? A little bit. Are you not good there? I don't feel like I'm good anywhere, to be honest. I'm a danger to myself. You don't know which OGs to tap in with in Miami so that you can finally hit the studio. What do you know about that? What do you know about that? I don't know nothing about nothing. That'll work in court, too. What about this? What if I said... On your show, I was like, okay, if you got a problem with me, come kill Chris and Jason about it. Would you get behind me? Would you step for me? No, I would not step for you. I'll give you $100, but I'm not going to take a bullet for you, Glaive. That's where I draw the line. I don't like the phrase, come kill Chris and Jason about it. That's not really a fade. That's just some guy killing us. I don't want that. If you've got a problem with me, come kill him. I could take a punch to the stomach from a stranger, but kill gets a little scary for me, personally. We can fight most of your fans. Not really a problem. Yeah, that's true. What do you guys think? Has anybody ever called y'all twinks? No. Because I could call that... Every day. Every day. No, because we're not twinks and you are. That's why. How though? Y'all are skinny. No, we're not. No, bro. We ain't skinny like you. We're not 19 year olds. porcelain skin, blonde hair. To be fair, you're too tall to be a twink. Yeah, technically. You're 6'4". I need that. I needed that affirmation. Sorry, but you're still a twink. Jason's right, but also... But just looking at photos of you, we can't tell how tall you are. That's true. People on Instagram or Twitter or whatever, they don't know how tall you are. They don't see you in person. Yeah, for all they know, you could be Troy Sivan. You have a twink energy. Yeah.

This is a good thing, by the way. That's one of the most desired styles in the gay community. I fuck with them. You're sleek, easy to move. Fuck with them. They fuck with them. The gays, I fuck with them. Yeah, they fuck with you too. They really want to fuck with you. They would love to fuck with you. Well, do you have any desires to shed your twink skin and start taking some creatine? I went to the gym a little bit, like last year. Holy balls, that's not for me, man. Okay, so what were you doing? Were you just lifting some weights, hitting the treadmill, kind of classic calisthenics, and it wasn't for you? I thought calisthenics is where they put the needles in your back, or no? No, that's acupuncture. Gotcha. Bet. Um, nah, I'm not, I just don't like, I'm not strong. I don't have any interest in being strong. Um, I'm not like fucking weak. I don't think, but I'm not trying to be like, you're definitely weak. I can look at you and tell you're weak. All right. Come kill me about it then. No, I'm not saying you can't throw hands. I'm just saying you can't like. help a woman in distress with her suitcase and it's going to fall on her head or something. You know what I mean? I helped a woman in distress. She wasn't in distress, but I helped a lady cross the street in Paris and she didn't. I was trying to tell her, like I was trying to talk to her and she didn't speak English, but we both came to the conclusion that I was going to help her walk across the street and I did it. So I don't want to hear that. Well, I like that, but that isn't. uh a testament to your strength that's a testament to the fact you're a good guy it doesn't mean you're a sweet you're a sweet boy did you carry this bitch across the street i didn't think so you said granny get put your baguette over your shoulder glaives gonna carry you home i put this whole city on my back the whole city on my back okay well if you're not gonna if if bench pressing is not for you have you thought about just simply getting fat

I thought about it. Would y'all still do this show with me if I got a lean gut or no? Lean gut, yes. Lean gut, yes. Regular fat, no. Lean gut would help your overall vibe. Yeah, lean gut. If you had the Gucci style, like hard lean gut, that would be cool. That would be cool. Start wearing slides all the time. Yeah, you're wearing Balmain skinnies with the slides. They got the gut hanging over with the Ferragamo belt. That'd be hard. The gut's kicking so much, you can't really tie the shoes so easily, so you got to get them little Fendi slides. Yeah. Or the Balenciagas with no laces. Are they Balenciagas with no laces? I don't actually know. What are the shoes with no laces? What are you talking about? Just, yeah, yeah. Like the ones that rappers wear. Like the Balenciaga Crocs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, the Balenciaga Crocs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I prefer the Balenciaga, like, Amsterdam clog, but made out of polyurethane. That's my personal favorite. Okay, Beast. Those look great on you. Oh, beautiful. Okay. Well, that's it for you. We hope you have a good show tonight with Toro y Moi. Thank you. I'm sure you're going to do great. The album comes out. When's the album coming out? Whenever. The album comes out soon-ish. It comes out on the 11th, I think. Okay. Don't quote me on that. Your manager told you not to say that. Oh, did he not? No, it comes out the 11th, but it also might not come out the 11th. You got to see. It's always a big surprise for me. Nice, nice. But new song is out today. with curtains you live in new zealand i think that's how it's already out okay okay i know y'all all are new we global we do have a big audience in the in that area of the world the kiwis as they call them exactly good to see you man always a pleasure always a pleasure and um hopefully we'll be able to we'll be able to catch a show next year all right see what see what it's all about yes sir have a good one y'all bye bye